#Pilot

REASONS FOR MORGAN CLASSIC DRIVETRAIN VIBRATION

This list of issues is not comprehensive. I will keep adding to it as issues or contributions allow. However, it is a good start on the process that will end your Morgan drivetrain vibration. Go to the diagnosis and checklist section first. If the issue is in the front end..check out  the FRONT END SECTION 12. And there is more remedial material within the Manual on each item mentioned here. 

1.   Motor Accesories – Disconnect the belts of all motor accessories and run motor.  Many vibrations come from fans, water pumps, etc. out of balance.

 2.   Clutch Throwout or Release Bearing - When you install the (new) throwout bearing, remember that the fork AND the springs go INSIDE THE GROOVE in the bearing - I see them installed wrong all the time, with the curled ends of the spring capturing the flange on the back end of the bearing - result is inability to get correct clutch adjustment/free play. 

Install the flywheel (always have it resurfaced before this procedure), clutch disc, pressure plate and clutch housing on the engine. Be advised that there can be NO oil or grease on your hands, the flywheel or pressure plate friction surfaces, or on the clutch disc. If there is, the clutch will grab (chatter) when being engaged. Install the correct length clutch fork on a 1½" long pivot that has the correct head type for the retainer on the fork (refer to fork and pivot information previously discussed). Position the fork so it sticks out of the clutch housing at about 4 or 5 degrees less than a right angle with the engine centerline (this would be when looking down on the engine from above—the fork should be ahead of, or less than a 90 degree angle by 4 or 5 degrees). 

Install the transmission on the clutch housing. The release bearing must be able to move away from the diaphragm spring approximately 1/16 to 1/8" (this is the "free play"). At this point you should be able to move the release bearing back and forward with the fork. The bearing, when against the clutch, should leave the release fork positioned at 4 or 5 degrees LESS than a right angle with the engine centerline and allow it to be moved away from the clutch 1/16 to 1/8". If this condition does not exists, do not install the assembly into the car until it does. If not, you may need a different clutch release bearing or pivot or you may have the wrong fork. 

3.  Motor Mounts - Morgan motor mounts are a wear part. The rubber interface dries, cracks, deteriorates over time and must be replaced. Additionally, bolts to other parts in the mount assembly, or to the frame or motor will loosen and fall out.

 

 

4.   The Pinion Angle - This is tthe angle the pointy input shaft to the transmission makes with its contact with the engine drive shaft. As a general rule, the pinion angle shouldn't be set relative to the ground, or exact level, but rather to the output shaft of the transmission.  The important thing is that the two center lines are parallel., 

5. The Drive Shaft U-Joints

While it is possible to run at zero degrees through the U-joints, something more than actual zero and less than three degrees seems to run smoothest. Angle induced vibration will be high frequency, twice engine RPM in direct drive. It may show up only on acceleration or deceleration. Adjust the pinion down to correct acceleration and up to correct deceleration vibrations, plus or minus one degree is usually enough. Before adjusting anything, make sure the U-bolts holding the driveshaft to the pinion yoke are not overtightened. Correct torque is 17 foot pounds and no more.

6.  Driveshaft (Prop Shaft) Phasing

Everything in the drive train must operate in "phase" in order to minimize vibration, noise and component wear. This sounds complex but it isn't as the universal joints of the prop shaft take care of most of the task.

1.Check your U-joints for proper alignment. The rotational speed of a universal joint varies or cycles as it turns through 360 degrees. Since universal joints are almost always installed in pairs, they are normally "phased" so this difference is eliminated. being canceled out by the two joints. (As one joint speeds the rotation up, the other slows it down so the rotational speed of the output is fairly constant.) Many propshaft come apart for easy assembly, usually a splined shaft is used to transmit power from one piece to the next. If the splined parts are connected without insuring that the U-joints are in phase, a tremendous vibration can result at speed.

To check your U-joints, jack up your car and support it on jack stands. (Never crawl under a car supported only by a jack.) A visual check will tell you if your U-joints are lined up correctly. Simply compare each end of the driveshaft to see if the yokes on each end (the parts welded to the driveshaft tube itself) lie in the same plane. (In a Morgan you may have to open the gear box cover access panel). If they do not line up, or are at right angles to each other, it is usually a simple matter to unbolt the propshaft and re-orient the splines of the two pieces to bring the universal joints into proper phasing.

2.  The major components at each end of the propshaft must be parallel to each other Think about a complete automotive drivetrain from the side -this includes engine, transmission, driveshaft and rear axle assembly. Part of the "phasing" procedure includes making sure that the center lines of the transmission and the rear axle input shaft are parallel. If the axis of the pinion gear is parallel with the ground, then tail shaft of the transmission must also be parallel to the ground. They can be higher or lower than the other but they MUST be parallel to the ground. And when these two components havedifferent centerlines to the any reference point (i.e. the ground) vibration must result!!! . Everything in the drive train must operate in "phase" in order to minimize vibration, noise and component wear.

Think about a complete automotive drive train from the side -this includes engine, transmission, driveshaft and rear axle assembly. Part of the "phasing" procedure includes making sure that the center lines of the transmission and the rear axle drive shaft are parallel. If the axis of the pinion gear is parallel with the ground, then tail shaft of the transmission must also be parallel to the ground. It can be higher or lower but it MUST be parallel. 


7.
Driveshaft (Prop Shaft) Balance

If your shaft is not balanced with the actual end yoke and U-joints, you have not fixed the potential vibration problems. A driveshaft will not run smooth and vibration-free unless it is straight and in balance. The recommendation is to have shaft dynamically high speed balanced at 10,000 rpm by a driveshaft professional. Typically, if the shaft is out of balance it will start to vibrate (and make a droning sound) somewhere around 50-60 mph and then get worse as speed increases to a point, and then get somewhat better at even higher speed...much like the vibration effect with a problematic Morgan front end.

If making a new driveshaft correctly, measuring is done by putting the yoke in until it bottoms out and pull it back 3/4 of an inch. Measure the length of the U Joint centerlines and have a shaft made with that length. If the yoke is too short to accomodate this correctly you will have a stange vibration so check your drive shaft for proper fit. Put the car on a drive on rack or on jack stands. With the car's weight on the suspension as you would drive it, disconnect the shaft from the pinion yoke. Push the drive shaft forward until it bottoms into the transmission. You should be able to drop the rear u-joint cleanly past the pinion yoke without resorting to a tool of any kind. Any clearance up to 3/8 inch is  fine. 

8. An Engine Anomally 

Lean misfire or bad/fouled plug.  A very common cause of vibrations is a misfiring cylinder. A cracked spark plug insulator, smashed gap or broken ground strap, are some of the causes. If you suspect a misfiring cylinder, the best was to isolate it is to pull each spark plug wire one by one, at idle, and note if/when there is a resulting rpm drop. Ten browse the GoMoG Manual for help. 

9.  Pilot (or Spigot) Bush

Clutch pilot bearing or bushings: Pilot bearings or bushings began as bronze bushings placed at the end of the crankshaft or in the center of the flywheel to support the outboard end of the transmission input shaft. With Morgans, this continued well into the 2000s. However, for most cars since the 1970s, pilot bearings are the ball bearing type

The pilot bushing is seldom thought of as a part of the clutch system but it is one of the most vital parts of the system. It holds and pilots the end of the transmission input gear into the crankshaft. It holds the input gear steady as its "nose" twirls inside the bushing. If it is worn or not running "true", it can cause serious clutch problems or transmission failure. Pilot bushing bore runout should always be checked with a dial indicator and should be within .002 total. The bronze bushing type should be a press fit into the crankshaft bore. It must be installed carefully. It should have between .001 and .003 clearance on the transmission shaft when installed.

So the job of the pilot bushing is to support the end of the input (main drive) gear in the crankshaft. It only acts as a bushing when the clutch is depressed. This pilot bushing should be a light drive fit into the crank bore. Care should be taken when installing any pilot bushing as they are soft and easily damaged. A damaged pilot bushing can bind on the input gear giving symptoms of clutch drag. Transmission damage and early failure can be caused by a pilot bushing or crankshaft bore that "runs out" in relation to the transmission locating bore in the bellhousing. A slight scratch on the bushing will cause a mild noise when the clutch is not enaged. This is annoying but not harmful. Plus 8s are infamous for this.

It is advisable to check the bore of the crank with a dial indicator before installing the pilot bushing (see below). If the bore runs out more than .003 total, the crank should be set up in a lathe and the bore trued up OR a special pilot bushing should be made that runs out the same amount as the crank bore.

To check alignment, use a dial indicator with the base mounted to the crank flange to check the transmission pilot hole for concentricity to the crankshaft center line with +/- .010”.  Check the face of the bellhousing (where the transmission bolts up) for squareness to the back of the block.  Variance should be no more than +/- .010” side-to-side and top to bottom. Also check the fit of the transmission to the bellhousing and the fit of the pilot bushing to the transmission input shaft.

WATCHPOINT: There are sad rumors that these bushes are very difficult to remove. Ignore them. Simply fill the hole with grease and use a clutch alignment tool end or similar OD bolt, tap it into the hole and the grease will force the bush out. When it works, you owe me a pint!

9. Flywheel Runout   

Check the face of the flywheel for runout with a dial indicator. Runout should not exceed .005". If it does, the flywheel should be resurfaced. If runout exists after resurfacing, the fault is either in the resurfacing job or there are burrs, dirt, or dings on the crankshaft or flywheel hub. Remember there is end play in the crankshaft bearings and this must be held in one direction when checking flywheel runout (or bellhousing face runout).

To check a bellhousing, mount it on the engine it's going to be used with, make sure there are no burrs or dirt on the block or bellhousing. All bellhousing to block bolts should be in and tight. Mount the dial indicator on the crankshaft of the engine using a suitable magnetic base attachment or mechanical clamping means. The contact point of the indicator should be touching the bore of the bellhousing. The indicator must be mounted rigidly enough so it does not move on its mounting to prevent false readings. Rotate the engine by hand with the spark plugs removed and observe the reading on the dial. The total number of thousandths misalignment of the bore relative to the crankshaft is read directly on the dial. Total runout should not exceed .007", with .010" being maximum. The greater the misalignment, the sooner transmission problems and failure will occur. A symptom of misalignment is unusual wear of the pilot bushing. We have checked stock Chevy bellhousings on engines that were out more than 1/32" (.032"). Some Ford one are reportedly worse. Anything over .010" runout must be corrected before the engine and bellhousing are put in service or you can count on pilot bushing, transmission, and clutch problems, followed by transmission failure. The simplest way to correct misalignment is to try another bellhousing or bellhousings. Machining the bellhousing is the best cure but offset dowel pins are simpler. Shims between the block and bellhousing will also work if you have the patience to use this method. Offset dowel pins are sometimes available from "speed shops."

Vehicle Drive Train Vibration Diagnosis Checklist

PART

POSSIBLE PROBLEM

BODY

Body

Loose Body Mounts

Body

Rusted Body Mounts/Brackets

BRAKES

 

 

Brakes

Calipers

Loose Caliper Bolts

CLUTCH

 

 

Clutch

Pilot Bushing

Loose, Worn   

Clutch

Flywheel

Out of Balance

Clutch

Flywheel

Out of Balance, Surfaced too much, Loose, No Dowel Pin

Clutch

Clutch Pressure Plate

Plate Off Center, Out of Balance, Bent Housing

Clutch

Clutch Disk

Out of Round, Dropped, Out of Balance

Clutch

Bellhousings

Cracked or Hole not Concentric to Crankshaft

 ENGINE

 

 

Engine

Water Pump Shaft

Bent,Loose Bearing  

Engine

Fan Clutch

Loose, Bad

Engine

Fan Blade

Bent, Out of Balance

Engine

Balancer

Loose, Spun on Rubber, Bad Keys

Engine

Motor Mounts

Cracked

Engine

Tune-up

Misfiring

Engine Engine  timing off
Engine Carb Misfiring
Engine Crankshaft Rear Flange  Bent loose flytwheel bolts, worn dowel pin

 

FRAME

Frame

Cracked Bent or Rusted Frame or Crossmembers

  

Frame

Cracked Front  Frame Extensions

  

Frame

Loose Bumper  Brackets, Impact Bars

  

REAR AXLE

Rear Axle

Flanges

ent Flange or Loose Bolts  

Rear Axle

Flanges, Half Shafts

Wrong Combination, Wrong Alignment

Rear Axle

Half Shafts

Bent, Out of Balance, Loose UJoint Holes

Rear Axle

U-Joints

Not Seated Properly, Off Center, Wrong Caps, Clips Missing

Rear Axle

Axle Yokes

Bent, Not Seated U-Joints, Not Machined Correctly, Loose Bolts

Rear Axle

Pinion Flange

Bent, Machined Wrong, Loose Bolts

Rear Axle

Pinion Snubber Bushings

Loose or Worn Out Cushions or Loose Bolt

Rear Axle

Pinion Snubber Bracket

Slotted Bracket Holes or Loose Bolts

STEERING

Steering

Wheel Bearings

Loose or Bad Bearings  

Steering

Steering Gearbox or Rack

Loose Internally or Loose from Frame

Steering

Steering Column

Loose, Bent

Steering Column Bush compromised Replace
Steering Column Adjuster untightened

Steering

Tie Rod Ends

Loose

 

SUSPENSION

Suspension

Front Stub Axles

Bent Spindles, Loose Bolts

Suspension

Anywhere

Loose or Missing Bushings

Suspension

Ball Joints

Loose, Not Lubricated, Need Replacement

Suspension

Shocks

Worn, Loose, Fit too tight, Leaking, Bolt or Grommets Missing 
  

TRANSMISSION

Transmission

Trans Input Shaft

Bent  

Transmission

Trans Output Shaft

Bent

Transmission

Trans Tailhousing Bushing

Worn

Transmission

Trans Mounts

Cracked or rubber worn/missing

Transmission

Driveshaft

Bent, Out of Balance, Balance off or Weight Missing

Wheels/Tires

Wheels

Bent, Loose Lug Nuts, Wheel Adapters

Wheels/Tires

Tires

Bad, Out of Round, Out of Balance, Broken Cords

TESTING & DIAGNOSIS

Test Drive

Check at what speed vibration comes in 

  

Test Drive

Check whether it is MPH of RPM related

  

Test Drive

Check whether it goes away with clutch disengaged

  

Test Drive

Get up to speed where vibration is the greatest, Then:

  

DIAGNOSIS

Diagnosis

Disengage Clutch, Does Vibration Go Away?  

  

Diagnosis

With Clutch Disengaged, Rev Motor Up & Down

  

Diagnosis

Does the Vibration Relate to Engine or Road Speed

  

Diagnosis

With Car Sitting Still, Rev Up Engine to Check for Vibration

  

Diagnosis

Short Out Cylinders one at a time

  

Diagnosis

Disconnect All Belts to Eliminate Front Engine Accessories

  

Diagnosis

Install a Different Set of Wheels and Tires to Eliminate Them as a cause 

  

Diagnosis

Run the Vehicle on the Hoist with Jack Stands at Rear to Load Suspension properly

  

Diagnosis

Spin Balance Wheels on Vehicle

  

Diagnosis

Hoist Testing will Eliminate Front Suspension, Steering, and Road Vibration

 

  

Diagnosis

Using a Stethoscope or Wooden Dowel on Components will Amplify Noises and Vibrations  

  

NOTES

Notes:

Clutch & Flywheel Problems Tend to Be Felt at around 1800 and 3600 RPM

  

Notes:

Tire Balance Problems Tend to Get Worse With Speed  

  

Notes:

Front End Problems Can Come and Go With Different Speeds.  

 

  

Notes:

Front End Problems Tend to be Felt in the Steering Column

  

Notes:

Clutch, Flywheel, and Trans Problems Tend to be Felt in the Shifter

  

Notes:

Rear End Problems Tend to be Felt in the Seat Bottom  

  

Notes:

Body, Frame and Bumper Problems Tend to be Felt in Body Vibrations

  

Notes:

Vibrations Tend to Come From Items With Great Mass at a Great Distance from Centerline

  

Example:

You Can Get a Vibration from a Tire, But You Wouldn't Get One From a Spindle Nut