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4/4s: Series V (1955-1968) The Series V had discs front and drums rear. The hand brake became a fly-off used until the present but with the old spear-type actuator bracket on the axle. A single cylinder was fitted in October 1961. Part numbers can be found HERE. |
Plus
4s: (1950-1969)
With drums at
all wheels, the Plus 4 began with the 4/4s Girling @LS with 9" drums.
The front brake shoes were 1.25" until mid-1956 and then 1.75" after. In
May of 1959, 11" drums were offered as an option (with wire wheels). Later
in the same year, disc brakes were offered, (also as
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Please read the section carefully, examine your car's braking system for numbers and consult the catalogues provided HERE. If there are additions, clarifications or corrections you feel will help, please contact the WEBMASTER. This immense work has been made possible by the helpful kindness of many people for many years. For more details, please consult the images of the original Girling catalogue we have provided in the PARTS section since April 2002. Always, consult the catalogues provided. Supplier sources are invariably more accurate on components than Morgan sources or the MMC Manuals the cars came with.
4/4s (1967-1985)
Plus 8s:
(1968-1978)
Rear drums
and front discs powered through a single line master cylinder (1"
bore) that was essentially the same as the previous Plus 4. Parts and numbers
from the original Girling Parts Manual HERE
IMPORTANT WATCHPOINT By
1972, tandem (twin circuit) master cylinders had become required by Law
in most major markets throughout the world, (Germany, Switzerland, Canada,
USA (with the rest of the world following in the years soon after).
Starting in 1972, the cars were delivered to these markets were equipped with tandem (twin circuit) master cylinders, often with a remote installed booster. However, the obsolete single circuit master cylinder lingered on in the UK and Downunder. Single circuit masters are inherently dangerous and UK Agents were soon replacing them as a matter of course. Anyone who finds their car still equipped in this fashion should upgrade at the earliest opportunity. There are a number of options available and the choice is important. We do not advise use of the master cylinder chosen by Morgan to replace the the single circuit unit. Click HERE for options or contact the webmaster |
Plus 8: POWERSTOP
Option 1 (1968-1972)
Single circuit
master cylinders could be ordered with an option of a Girling POWERSTOP
servo. Part numbers from the original Girling Parts Manual HERE.
Plus 8: (1972-1978)
Tandem Master
cylinder having a .75" bore became standard to all cars. However, this
was a different Girling unit than the one used post 1978. Part numbers
from the original Girling Parts Manual HERE.
We have no information as yet what the proportioning was on this master
cylinder. Considering the EFFECT
of the proportioning on the later master cylinder (1978-1993) it would
be wise to verify it the ratio. Please report when you do so.
Plus 8: POWERSTOP
Option 2 (1972-1978)
Tandem (twin
circuit) masters cylinder could be ordered with an option of a Girling
POWERSTOP servo. Exported cars to the USA and some other countries were
so equipped as standard, often at the behest of the ordering Agent. Part
numbers from the original Girling Parts Manual HERE.
Plus 8s:
1978 TO 1993
Most part numbers for earlier Morgan brakes can be found in the GoMoG Workshop Manual Parts Section. After 1978, the tale is easy to tell. The Plus 8s used a Girling .7" bore Master Cylinder powering 2 pot calipers and Triumph rear shoes through Girling wheel cylinders. It is a tandem (dual circuit system). |
PLUS 8 PADS |
used a thinner rotor and different pads up front. |
The wheel cylinders
and the older MCs can still be sourced from Past
Parts. However, as these cylinders have always been a relatively quick
wear part, it is wiser to keep the old ones and have them resleeved in
stainless steel and refurbished. See the GoMoG Parts and Services pages
(under BRAKES) for
companies that do this. The other parts are not difficult to source.
One exception, the Master Cylinder (.75"). These are no longer made and were VERY expensive when they were. They can be resleeved in stainless steel and refurbished, which is a much better option than simply buying them refurbished alone . (We have also found a fine replacement, also in a .75" bore by Subaru for their 1979-1981 Brats. Click Here for more information. And Morgan Spares has another replacement. However, PLEASE read the Proportioning Watchpoint below. You are not doing your fun any favours. |
PROPORTIONING
WATCHPOINT
(1978-1993) : Savvy owners have discovered that the
original Girling MC (1978-1993), shown above, provides a a badly
chosen 50-50 division of hydraulic
of force front to back brakes. This is very unusual for a front
disk/rear
drum set up and accounts for the tendency for the Morgan
fronts locking first and
swinging the back of the car out. These Morgan drivers unconsiously
adjust to the problem and baby the at speed car in the corners. I know
of three cures.
A. One can use a proportioning valve, (fitting it at one of the rear junctions seems easiest) and adjust the proportion until the car is under complete control (an approximate 40-60ish % bias in favor of the front). B. One can use the later AP Caparo (originally Lockheed) 1993-on Master Cylinders which are proportioned correctly. However, these come with a booster which can make fitting difficult as the reservoir can abut the exhaust too closely requiring a remote reservoir. I have fit remote reservoirs a number of time..as a remote reservoir is also required when fitting branch manifolds to replace cast iron manifolds. As of this date, June 2011, I have yet to write up the booster retro-fit. Write me if you are interested and need the article earlier. webmaster@gomog.com I did the retrofit with both the booster and 4 pot brakes. C. Fit the Subaru MC above which comes with proper proportioning. The result is a happy one. The rear brakes stop locking first making the rear end of the car controllable under braking. Morgans of the era are infamous for losing the rear end. Take note, brakes are not area for mistakes. If you have any concerns, use the services of a professional. |
In June 1993, the Factory moved from the brake system above to a servo-assisted Master Cylinder (servo and MC are sold as one unit) powering 4 pot calipers (the first in Morgan history) in front and self-adjusting shoes and wheel cylinders at the rear. After the closure of AP Lockheed, the manufacture was taken over by and India-owned multi-national named Caparo or in this division, known as AP Caparo. They operate from the immense and mostly abandoned former premises of Lockheed in Leamington Spa (worth seeing if you are in the area!). BEWARE. Newbies often assume the "AP" stands for Austin or Austin Princess. There is no connection.)
At the rear,
the wheel cylinders became Caparo AP Braking CW 15953 which are
matched by
Delphi Lockheed LW 15953. (for a saving of 75% over the
Morgan Factory pricing). The stock shoes can be matched by Ferodo FSB
385 R, originally fitted on 1989 Leyland DAF/Ford Transit.
BRAKES POST-2008
(updated July 2012)
by Lorne
Goldman
In 2008, the Morgan Motor Company moved to new 4-pot brake calipers, also supplied by Caparo. In 2011 I decided to upgrade one of my Plus 8s (a 1990) from the earlier 2 pot calipers (1978-1993) to these 4 pot calipers. I leap-frogged the calipers used from 1993-2008. The new calipers will fit, with some fiddling and a small washer/spacer. They also use the same pads as the 1993-2008s. WATCHPOINT: However, there is a watchpoint. The pads sit proud of the rotor. Over time, a thin lip is formed, getting ever deeper with usage. This caused concern to the Caparo engineers when they saw mine. They told me that they did never received any feedback from the Morgan Motor Company to correct in the years they have been supplying them.
However, we checked with the Factory on the spot. The Service Department told us they were aware of the issue and informed Production and Purchasing. As nothing happened, they fell into the habit of checking for the created edge at first service and chmafering the edges off. This task should be added to first service on all new cars after 2008. Chamfering pads (and shoes) is not a rare task on any car with a savvy owner. It reduces the possibility of a piece of breaking materiel cracking off the sharp edge and causing mischief and noise. When I left Caparo, they hoped to receive instructions from Morgan to adjust the dimensions of the pads they provide and eliminate this problem but I have had no word since then (2011).
WATCHPOINT: For some time, one of the UK forums, TalkMorgan, has erroneously reported that the current Morgan brake supplier is a division of Brembo called AP Racing Ltd of Coventry. This is not correct. And though AP RACING LTD is a fine company by all accounts, they have never supplied Morgan classics. They asked us to place this advisory in hope of ending the confusion that has resulted and stopping the Morgan technical inquiries they have received. They asked us to point out that if calipers have AP RACING in large letters on them, they are made by AP Racing. If they have CAPARO written on them, they are made by Caparo. Brakes are the most important safety items on any vehicle. Be absolutely sure of the quality of your information source in this area.
It is impossible not to notice the difference between the boosted 4-pots and my earlier two pots. I do not suggest that the two pots were inadequate. Morgans are so light they do not need much braking. However, 4 pots are better than two and I must admit to liking the AP Caparo servo system. The booster still provides "feel" and it cures the poor proportioning of the Girling master cylinder. The cars stops evenly and on a dime. However, read on.
AFTERMARKET (updated December 2012)There are also some excellent aftermarket sources serving the Morgan trad community for calipers and rear disk brakes. In the main, they target the racing community braking which is not the subject of this article. However, I came across a Morgan-specific option that seems the best choice for an upgrader who wishes to go from 2 to 4 pots. Peter Mulberry (aka Mulfab) has searched out and has had a 4 pot caliper made for specifically him by HiSpec. It is a fraction of the size of the MMC Caparo, reducing unsprung weight significantly, yet it uses a markedly larger pad for greater stopping power. The larger friction surface means more braking. Any items needed for fitting are provided and the cost is the same as the MMC Caparro!!. In 2012, Morgan adopted these calipers for the uprated Baby Doll Plus 4s along with other Mulberry equipment for suspension handling and rear (disk) brakes.